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Thursday, 25 February 2010, 11:05
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SUBJECT: U/S BURNS' FEBRUARY 18 MEETINGS WITH U/S
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Classified By: AMB James F. Jeffrey, for reasons 1.4 (b,d)
Summary
In a tense conversation, a senior US envoy presses Turkish officials to support US-led action to convince the Iranian government that it is on the wrong course. The Turks insist their mediation efforts are the best way forward but are forced to concede that most countries in the region see Iran as a threat. Key passage highlighted in yellow.
Read related article 1. (C) Summary: During February 18 "Shared Vision and Structured Dialogue" meetings in Ankara, Turkish MFA Undersecretary Sinirlioglu:
-- Appealed for "simultaneity" between Armenian Protocols ratification and the Minsk Process; -- Registered increasing GoT dissatisfaction with Iraqi PM Malaki; -- Expressed hope USF-I CG Odierno's engagement would elicit substantive cooperation from the KRG against the terrorist PKK; -- Urged higher profile USG involvment in the Cyprus reunification talks, and; -- Confirmed GoT interest in further dialogue on missile defense.
End Summary.
IRAN
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2. (C) Burns strongly urged Sinirlioglu to support action to convince the Iranian government it is on the wrong course. Sinirliolgu reaffirmed the GoT's opposition to a nuclear Iran; however, he registered fear about the collateral impact military action might have on Turkey and contended sanctions would unite Iranians behind the regime and harm the opposition. Burns acknowledged Turkey's exposure to the economic effects of sanctions as a neighbor to Iran, but reminded Sinirlioglu Turkish interests would suffer if Israel were to act militarily to forestall Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons or if Egypt and Saudi Arabia were to seek nuclear arsenals of their own. He said the international community's patience with Iran had been met with the Iranian refusal, since October, to work with the P5-plus-1, the clandestine enrichment facility near Qom and Tehran's recent decison to enrich its low-enriched uranium to 20%. The IAEA's creative proposal to fabricate new fuel assemblies for the Tehran Research Reactor had stumbled on a technically unfeasible Iranian counter-offer for a simultaneous exchange in Iran of Iranian fuel for fuel assemblies. Carefully constructed sanctions, Burns argued, targeting the increasingly pervasive economic power of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, would convey the international community's unity and determination. "We'll keep the door open to engagement," he stressed. A visibly disheartened Sinirlioglu conceded a unified message is important. He acknowledged the countries of the region perceive Iran as a growing threat: "Alarm bells are ringing even in Damascus."
ARMENIA
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3. (C) Sinirlioglu appealed for "simultaneity" between Armenian Protocols ratification and the Minsk Process. He emphasized "a strong reaction" against the protocols among ruling party MPs had to be overcome before the government would hazard a ratification effort. He warned Congressional passage of an Armenian genocide resolution would "complicate" his government's domestic political calculations regarding ratification. He said if something acceptable to Azerbaijani President Aliyev can found, then "we can move" the protocols forward. Sinirlioglu suggested Azerbaijan and Armenia's announcement of an agreed framework for Minsk Group progress would provide the GoT with the necessary political cover. Burns inquired about the prospect for progress on a natural gas deal between Turkey and Azerbaijan. Sinirlioglu implied
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Aliyev is holding an agreement hostage to Turkey's handling of the protocols: "He doesn't trust us."
IRAQ
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4. (C) Sinirlioglu registered the GoT's increasing dissatisfaction with PM Malaki and fear that he is tending "to get out of control." "He is preoccupied with his political survival;" nevertheless, Sinirlioglu continued, the GoT is in frequent contact with him. The MFA hosted Maliki advisors Sadiq al Rikabi and Tariq al Najmi to meetings 10 days prior. Sinirlioglu lamented Iran's efforts to influence the election. He noted Saudi Arabia is also "throwing around money" among the political parties in Iraq because it is unwilling to accept the inevitability of Shia dominance there. "We want a free, transparent and fair election," he said, "we need to forestall a deepening of the sectarian divide."
5. (C) After the March 7 elections, Sinirlioglu said, Turkey would initiate an effort to connect Iraqi gas fields to the Turkish grid via a 300 kilometer pipeline, costing USD 500 million. He asserted the pipeline could begin pumping within two years. He alleged Iranian opposition to the pipeline because most of Iraq's gas fields are in Kurdish and Sunni areas. Sinirlioglu advocated a second pipeline that would give Iraqi oil an alternative to the Gulf as a route to Europe once the country is able to meet its OPEC quota. He asserted the piplines' construction would pull the several Iraqi communities together into a common project. The creation of new "common assets," he said, could be more important for its politically unifying effect than its economic impact.
6. (C) Sinirlioglu registered his appreciation for USF-I Commanding General Odierno's recent visit. He hoped for the early drafting of an action plan that would elicit more cooperation from the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) against the terrorist Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) leadership harboring in northern Iraq: "We want the KRG to understand that working with us is important."
ISRAEL
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7. (C) Burns focused on Turkey's strained relationship with Israel. Sinirlioglu argued "the problem is not bilateral, but general." He attributed increasing regional country frustration with Israel to the stalled Peace Process, especially on the Palestinian track. He blamed the lack of progress on Israeli intransigence, which caused regional stake-holders to question Netanyahu's goals. He contended the "humanitarian situation in Gaza," which is not a punishment of Hamas, but of the Gazan people, fed Turkish popular anger against Israel. Even so, bilateral cooperation with Israel is continuing. Turkey is acquiring Israeli military equipment, notably Heron UAVs. Direct flights between the two countries are routine. Two-way trade is healthy, he said, tourism has dropped recently, but "will recover." Sinirlioglu described Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak's mid-January visit as "very good." He noted the MFA is exploring the possibility of arranging a meeting between the two prime ministers on the margins of an international gathering. Returning to a GoT obsession, he recalled the Turkey-brokered Syria-Israel proximity talks, "which were shattered by Cast Lead," Israel's December 2008 military operation in Gaza. Burns noted Syria places high value on Turkey's role as a mediator and repeated Senator Mitchell's statement that Turkey-brokered proximity talks can make an important contribution to the Peace Process.
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SYRIA
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8. (C) Sinirlioglu contended Turkey's diplomatic efforts are beginning to pull Syria out of Iran's orbit. He said a shared hatred for Saddam had been the original impetus for their unlikely alliance. "Now, their interests are diverging." Once again pitching Israel-Syria proximity talks, Sinirlioglu contended Israel's acceptance of Turkey as a mediator could break Syria free of Tehran's influence and further isolate Iran.
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9. (C) Sinirlioglu said Turkey's EU accession is being obstructed by the politically motivated objections of several member states, notably France, Austria and Cyprus. He reserved special criticism for President Sarkozy. He accused France of changing the rules mid-game. He contended French opposition to Turkey's membership is "deepening the cultural divide" between Christian Europe and the Muslim world: "A wider audience is watching this."
10. (C) He regretted perceived Greek Cypriot complacency regarding the island's reunification talks: EU "membership makes them invulnerable." Greek Cypriots, he said, want the world to forget the progress achieved by the Annan Plan in 2004. They pretend relations between the island's two communities are an internal affair, even though, by treaty, it's been an international issue for 50 years. Talat's cross-voting proposal, Sinirlioglu continued, should have been a breakthrough, but the Greek Cypriots failed to react. Downer is frustrated, Sinirlioglu alleged, and so are the Turkish Cypriots. He implied the island's Turkish community would register its frustration by voting out Talat as TRNC "president" in April. He renewed Turkey's appeal for higher profile direct USG involvement in the negotiations.
11. (C) Sinirlioglu welcomed Greek PM Papandeou's belated response to Erdogan's October 30 letter seeking a frank new discussion of the two neighbors' several long-running disputes. He conceded Papandreou's delay is understandable in light of his likely preoccupation with Greece's acute financial crisis. Based on Papandreou's response, Sinirlioglu said, Turkey expects to begin new talks with Greece soon.
AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN and INDIA
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12. (C) Burns opened the discussion on Afghanistan with praise for Turkey's military, training and development contributions there. Sinirlioglu said Turkey had chosen to focus on three Afghan challenges: "the marriage of Wahhabism and Pashtun nationalism"; the chronic antagonism between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and; the country's security forces deficit. He said Turkey plans to address the first by ramping up its education programs in Afghanistan; the second by pursuing its trilateral Ankara Process, which sponsors meetings of senior Afghan and Pakistani ministerial and intelligence counterparts, and; the third by establishing a police training center in Kabul that aims for a throughput of 5160 trainees per year. Keying off the last point, AMB Tacan Ildem, who recently concluded an assignment as Turkey's NATO PERMREP, declared the EUPOL police training effort in Afghanistan a failure. He said the EU's criticism of Turkey's unwillingness to work directly with EUPOL is unjustified. He argued, since Turkey does not have a security agreement with the EU and is excluded from the
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European Security and Defense Policy (ESDP), the GoT lacks a legal basis on which to cooperate with EUPOL. "We would like the EU to involve us not as a third country, but, in view of our accumulated rights," as a candidate for membership. He urged the USG not to coordinate bilateral agreements to support EU operations but, instead, to route all cooperation with the EU on security issues through NATO.
13. (C) Deputy Undersecretary for South Asian Affairs Engin Soysal led the discussion on Pakistan. He described the Ankara Process and the recent Turkey-sponsored Afghanistan Neighbors Summit as Turkish efforts to assert regional responsibility for South Asia's inter-linked problems. He said Turkey had not invited India to the neighbors summit in deference to Pakistani sensitivities; however, he claimed, Pakistan understands attempting to exclude India from the nascent South Asian regional structures would be a mistake. He reported Indian Prime Minister Singh had requested President Gul's assistance with Pakistan during the latter's visit to New Delhi the previous week. Acting on that request, Gul had phoned Pakistani President Zardari, who was skeptical of Indian intentions. Gul is planning to visit Pakistan later this year. Soysal said Iran is proposing a quadrilateal summit, which would include Turkey, Afghanistan and Pakistan, but that proposal had yet to generate enthusiasm.
14. (C) Soysal, Turkey's former ambassador to Pakistan, said the Pakistani military, though displeased with Zardari, remains unwilling to intervene; nevertheless, senior officers' patience may not be infinite. Zardari needs to increase the democratic legitimacy of parliament. Soysal offered. Nawaz Sharif has become a much more constructive player.
15. (C) Soysal urged a NATO training role in Pakistan. Picking up from Soysal, Tacan Ildem suggested NATO invite Pakistani military officers to courses at Oberammergau.
BOSNIA
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16. (C) Sinirlioglu registered the GoT's determination to resist perceived EU efforts to exclude Turkey from the Balkans, particularly Bosnia. He identified effecting rapprochement between Bosnia and Serbia as Turkey's immediate diplomatic goal for the region. Towards that end, Sinirlioglu said, we convinced Haris Siladjdzic, who had been in Ankara the day before, to cease references to Serbian "genocide." The United States and Turkey have "agreed to disagree" on the Membership Action Plan (MAP) for Bosnia; nevertheless, "we value your involvement in the Balkans."
BILATERAL EUROPEAN RELATIONS, NATO
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17. (C) Burns inquired about Turkey's bilateral relations with Europe. Sinirlioglu briefly recapped Turkey's unhappiness with Sarkozy. He described his country's relationship with Austria as infected by the latter's ethnic prejudice. He complained Belgium and Denmark are reluctant to suppress terrorist PKK-affiliated organizations active in their countries. Tacan Ildem added that, as part of the 2009 POTUS-brokered deal that had overcome Turkish objections to the appointment of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as NATO Secretary General, Denmark had promised to clarify its legal requirements prerequiste to acceding to Turkey's request for the closure of Roj TV, a PKK mouthpiece. This still needed to be done, Ildem said.
18. (C) Picking up from Ildem, Sinirlioglu recalled the
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POTUS-brokered deal had included an understanding that a qualified Turk would be considered for Assistant Secretary General. Instead, he said, a German of uncompelling merit was selected. "We suspect a deal between Rasmussen and Merkel." Ildem complained high-level positions should be part of NATO reform: "We missed an opportunity with the selection of the Assistant Secretary General." Sinirlioglu added: "We let Rasmussen have Secretary General, because we trusted you."
MISSILE DEFENSE
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19. (C) Sinirlioglu inquired about Russia's reaction on missile defense. Burns said the Russians are much more relaxed towards the Phased Adaptive Approach (PAA) and we hope to have more conversations on missile defense bilaterally and, eventually, within the NATO-Russia Council. Sinirlioglu recalled PM Erdogan's request in his recent meeting with SECDEF Gates that the Iranian threat not be highlighted to justify PAA.
20. (U) Participants:
Turkey
Undersecretary Feridun Sinirliolgu Deputy Undersecretary Engin Soysal Ambassador Reha Keskintepe, Director General for the Americas Ambassador Tacan Ildem, Director General for International Security Affairs Ambassador Aydin Sezgin, Director General for Intelligence and Security Affairs Ebru Barat Gokdenizler, Deputy Director General for the Americas Serhat Aksen, Department Head, Americas
United States
Undersecretary William Burns Ambassador James Jeffrey Deputy Assistant Secretary Tina Kaidanow Bridget Brink, NSC Daniel O'Grady, Political Counselor Tamir Waser, P Staff Jeremiah Howard, Deputy Political Counselor - Notetaker
21. (U) Undersecretary Burns has cleared this cable.
Jeffrey
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Ανανέωση - 03:12 πμ
Αναφορές σε Τουρκία και ΠΓΔΜ
Τηλεγράφημα αναφέρει ότι σε συνάντηση του υφυπουργού Εξωτερικών των ΗΠΑ με Γάλλους πολιτικούς, στις 16 Σεπτεμβρίου του 2009, ένας από τους τελευταίους σε αυτή φέρεται να "εκφράζει την αισιοδοξία του ότι μια νέα ελληνική κυβέρνηση θα είναι 'πιο σταθερή' και θα επιδείξει μεγαλύτερη ευελιξία για πρόοδο στη διένεξη με τη 'Μακεδονία΄για το θέμα του ονόματος. Από την πλευρά του, ο Φίλιπ Γκόρντον (ο υφυπουργός Εξωτερικών) φέρεται να συμφώνησε πως είτε μια πιο ισχυρή Συντηρητική κυβέρνηση [στην Ελλάδα] είτε μία Σοσιαλιστική θα αποτελούσε έναν πιο ευέλικτο εταίρο στις διαπραγματεύσεις.
Εξέφρασε δε, την ελπίδα πως αν η διεθνής κοινότητα έπειθε τη "Μακεδονία" να εγκαταλείψει την ιδέα του δημοψηφίσματος και την Ελλάδα να εγκαταλείψει την ανάγκη αλλαγής διαβατηρίων, θα μπορούσε να σημειωθεί πρόοδος.
Στο ίδιο τηλεγράφημα γίνεται αναφορά και στην Τουρκία και στις σχέσεις της με την Ε.Ε.. Ο Γκόρντον αναφέρει πως η Τουρκία βρίσκεται σε ένα φαύλο κύκλο και δεν προχωρά στις απαιτούμενες μεταρρυθμίσεις διότι οι Τούρκοι δεν πιστεύουν πως το αίτημα για είσοδο της χώρας τους στην Ε.Ε. θα ικανοποιηθεί, ενώ την ίδια στιγμή, οι διαπραγματεύσεις δεν προχωρούν επειδή οι Τούρκοι δεν έχουν προχωρήσει στις απαραίτητες μεταρρυθμίσεις.
Ο Γκόρντον πρόσθεσε πως σε πρόσφατες δημοσκοπήσεις ποσοστό κάτω του 30% των Τούρκων πιστεύει πως η χώρα τους θα αποκτήσει την ιδιότητα του κράτους-μέλους της Ε.Ε..
Τηλεγραφήματα που δημοσιεύει το Der Spiegel αποκαλύπτουν ότι οι αμερικανοί διπλωμάτες είναι δύσπιστοι απέναντι στον Τούρκο πρωθυπουργό Ρετζέπ Ταγίπ Ερντογάν, τον οποίο θεωρούν απομονωμένο και ελλιπώς ενημερωμένο.
Ο Ερντογάν δεν εμπιστεύεται κανέναν και "περιβάλλεται από ένα κύκλο συμβούλων που τον κολακεύουν αλλά τον αψηφούν". Λαμβάνει τις πληροφορίες του σχεδόν αποκλειστικά από τις εφημερίδες των ισλαμιστών και οι αναλύσεις των υπουργείων του δεν τον ενδιαφέρουν, γράφουν οι αμερικανοί διπλωμάτες στην Άγκυρα.
Ο Ερντογάν φοβάται μήπως χάσει την εξουσία, εκτιμούν οι διπλωμάτες. Μια από τις πηγές τους, επισημαίνει: "Ο Ταγίπ πιστεύει στο Θεό αλλά δεν τον εμπιστεύεται". Η διπλωματική αλληλογραφία αναπαράγει φήμες περί υποτιθέμενης διαφθοράς του πρωθυπουργού, ο οποίος φέρεται να πλούτισε κατά την ιδιωτικοποίηση ενός διυλιστηρίου πετρελαίου.
«Εξαιρετικά επικίνδυνος» ο Αχμέτ Νταβούτογλου
Ο υπουργός Εξωτερικών Αχμέτ Νταβούτογλου χαρακτηρίζεται "εξαιρετικά επικίνδυνος" από έναν πληροφοριοδότη των αμερικανών διπλωματών, ο οποίος τους προειδοποιεί για την ισλαμιστική επιρροή του στον Ερντογάν.
Η πρεσβεία τρέφει υποψίες ότι ο Νταβούτογλου ονειρεύεται μια επάνοδο της οθωμανικής δύναμης και μάλιστα μετά μια ομιλία του στο Σεράγεβο τον Ιανουάριο του 2010, υποψιάζονται ότι θέλει να επαναφέρει την τουρκική επιρροή στα Βαλκάνια. Οι διπλωμάτες δεν είναι σίγουροι για τη σταθερότητα της κυβέρνησης στην Τουρκία, που είναι από τους σημαντικότερους συμμάχους της, σύμφωνα με τα τηλεγραφήματα που συντάχθηκαν φέτος το Φεβρουάριο.
Στα έγγραφα που δημοσιεύθηκαν τις τελευταίες ώρες υπάρχουν επίσης αναφορές :
Στον πρόεδρο της Βενεζουέλας, Ούγκο Τσάβες. Ο Τσάβες είναι "τρελός" και ετοιμάζεται να μετατρέψει τη χώρα του "σε μια άλλη Ζιμπάμπουε", εκτίμησε ο διπλωματικός σύμβουλος του Νικολά Σαρκοζί, Ζαν-Νταβίντ Λετίβ σε συνομιλία του με τον αμερικανό υφυπουργό Φίλιπ Γκόρντον, τον Σεπτέμβριο του 2009.
Στην Κίνα και το Google. Σύμφωνα με έγγραφο που προέρχεται από την αμερικανική πρεσβεία στο Πεκίνο και επικαλείται "κινεζική πηγή" οι ΗΠΑ έχουν την πεποίθηση ότι οι κινεζικές αρχές βρίσκονται πίσω από την πειρατική πληροφόρηση εκ μέρους του Google και δυτικών χωρών, αναφέρουν οι New York Times.
"Η πειρατεία του Google εγγράφεται στο πλαίσιο μιας εκστρατείας σαμποτάζ ως προς την πληροφόρηση που οργανώθηκε από αξιωματούχους, από ειδικούς σε θέματα ασφαλείας και από πειρατές του Ίντερνετ που καθοδηγούνταν από την κινεζική κυβέρνηση", αναφέρει η εφημερίδα.
Στο Ιράν. Στην ιστοσελίδα της η Guardian αναφέρει ότι ο βασιλιάς Αμπντάλα της Σαουδικής Αραβίας κάλεσε τις ΗΠΑ να επιτεθούν στο Ιράν προκειμένου να τερματίσει το πυρηνικό του πρόγραμμα. Όσον αφορά το ιρανικό θέμα, τα έγγραφα δείχνουν ότι το Ισραήλ ώθησε αποφασιστικά τις ΗΠΑ εναντίον του Ιράν, τονίζοντας ότι η αμερικανική στρατηγική υπέρ των διαπραγματεύσεων με την Τεχεράνη "δεν θα λειτουργήσει", σύμφωνα με έγγραφο που αναρτήθηκε στην ιστοσελίδα της Le Monde.
Αμερικανικό τηλεγράφημα αναφέρει μια συζήτηση την 1η Δεκεμβρίου του 2009 μεταξύ του Αμος Γκιλάντ, του διευθυντή πολιτικο-στρατιωτικών υποθέσεων στο ισραηλινό υπουργείο Άμυνας και της Ελεν Τάουσερ, της υφυπουργού Εξωτερικών των ΗΠΑ.
Η διπλωματία του προέδρου Ομπάμα, "η στρατηγική δέσμευση με το Ιράν" "είναι μια καλή ιδέα αλλά σαφές ότι δεν θα λειτουργήσει" δηλώνει ο Γκιλάντ στη συνομιλία αυτή.
Τηλεγράφημα αναφέρει ότι σε συνάντηση του υφυπουργού Εξωτερικών των ΗΠΑ με Γάλλους πολιτικούς, στις 16 Σεπτεμβρίου του 2009, ένας από τους τελευταίους σε αυτή φέρεται να "εκφράζει την αισιοδοξία του ότι μια νέα ελληνική κυβέρνηση θα είναι 'πιο σταθερή' και θα επιδείξει μεγαλύτερη ευελιξία για πρόοδο στη διένεξη με τη 'Μακεδονία΄για το θέμα του ονόματος. Από την πλευρά του, ο Φίλιπ Γκόρντον (ο υφυπουργός Εξωτερικών) φέρεται να συμφώνησε πως είτε μια πιο ισχυρή Συντηρητική κυβέρνηση [στην Ελλάδα] είτε μία Σοσιαλιστική θα αποτελούσε έναν πιο ευέλικτο εταίρο στις διαπραγματεύσεις.
Εξέφρασε δε, την ελπίδα πως αν η διεθνής κοινότητα έπειθε τη "Μακεδονία" να εγκαταλείψει την ιδέα του δημοψηφίσματος και την Ελλάδα να εγκαταλείψει την ανάγκη αλλαγής διαβατηρίων, θα μπορούσε να σημειωθεί πρόοδος.
Στο ίδιο τηλεγράφημα γίνεται αναφορά και στην Τουρκία και στις σχέσεις της με την Ε.Ε.. Ο Γκόρντον αναφέρει πως η Τουρκία βρίσκεται σε ένα φαύλο κύκλο και δεν προχωρά στις απαιτούμενες μεταρρυθμίσεις διότι οι Τούρκοι δεν πιστεύουν πως το αίτημα για είσοδο της χώρας τους στην Ε.Ε. θα ικανοποιηθεί, ενώ την ίδια στιγμή, οι διαπραγματεύσεις δεν προχωρούν επειδή οι Τούρκοι δεν έχουν προχωρήσει στις απαραίτητες μεταρρυθμίσεις.
Ο Γκόρντον πρόσθεσε πως σε πρόσφατες δημοσκοπήσεις ποσοστό κάτω του 30% των Τούρκων πιστεύει πως η χώρα τους θα αποκτήσει την ιδιότητα του κράτους-μέλους της Ε.Ε..
Τηλεγραφήματα που δημοσιεύει το Der Spiegel αποκαλύπτουν ότι οι αμερικανοί διπλωμάτες είναι δύσπιστοι απέναντι στον Τούρκο πρωθυπουργό Ρετζέπ Ταγίπ Ερντογάν, τον οποίο θεωρούν απομονωμένο και ελλιπώς ενημερωμένο.
Ο Ερντογάν δεν εμπιστεύεται κανέναν και "περιβάλλεται από ένα κύκλο συμβούλων που τον κολακεύουν αλλά τον αψηφούν". Λαμβάνει τις πληροφορίες του σχεδόν αποκλειστικά από τις εφημερίδες των ισλαμιστών και οι αναλύσεις των υπουργείων του δεν τον ενδιαφέρουν, γράφουν οι αμερικανοί διπλωμάτες στην Άγκυρα.
Ο Ερντογάν φοβάται μήπως χάσει την εξουσία, εκτιμούν οι διπλωμάτες. Μια από τις πηγές τους, επισημαίνει: "Ο Ταγίπ πιστεύει στο Θεό αλλά δεν τον εμπιστεύεται". Η διπλωματική αλληλογραφία αναπαράγει φήμες περί υποτιθέμενης διαφθοράς του πρωθυπουργού, ο οποίος φέρεται να πλούτισε κατά την ιδιωτικοποίηση ενός διυλιστηρίου πετρελαίου.
«Εξαιρετικά επικίνδυνος» ο Αχμέτ Νταβούτογλου
Ο υπουργός Εξωτερικών Αχμέτ Νταβούτογλου χαρακτηρίζεται "εξαιρετικά επικίνδυνος" από έναν πληροφοριοδότη των αμερικανών διπλωματών, ο οποίος τους προειδοποιεί για την ισλαμιστική επιρροή του στον Ερντογάν.
Η πρεσβεία τρέφει υποψίες ότι ο Νταβούτογλου ονειρεύεται μια επάνοδο της οθωμανικής δύναμης και μάλιστα μετά μια ομιλία του στο Σεράγεβο τον Ιανουάριο του 2010, υποψιάζονται ότι θέλει να επαναφέρει την τουρκική επιρροή στα Βαλκάνια. Οι διπλωμάτες δεν είναι σίγουροι για τη σταθερότητα της κυβέρνησης στην Τουρκία, που είναι από τους σημαντικότερους συμμάχους της, σύμφωνα με τα τηλεγραφήματα που συντάχθηκαν φέτος το Φεβρουάριο.
Στα έγγραφα που δημοσιεύθηκαν τις τελευταίες ώρες υπάρχουν επίσης αναφορές :
Στον πρόεδρο της Βενεζουέλας, Ούγκο Τσάβες. Ο Τσάβες είναι "τρελός" και ετοιμάζεται να μετατρέψει τη χώρα του "σε μια άλλη Ζιμπάμπουε", εκτίμησε ο διπλωματικός σύμβουλος του Νικολά Σαρκοζί, Ζαν-Νταβίντ Λετίβ σε συνομιλία του με τον αμερικανό υφυπουργό Φίλιπ Γκόρντον, τον Σεπτέμβριο του 2009.
Στην Κίνα και το Google. Σύμφωνα με έγγραφο που προέρχεται από την αμερικανική πρεσβεία στο Πεκίνο και επικαλείται "κινεζική πηγή" οι ΗΠΑ έχουν την πεποίθηση ότι οι κινεζικές αρχές βρίσκονται πίσω από την πειρατική πληροφόρηση εκ μέρους του Google και δυτικών χωρών, αναφέρουν οι New York Times.
"Η πειρατεία του Google εγγράφεται στο πλαίσιο μιας εκστρατείας σαμποτάζ ως προς την πληροφόρηση που οργανώθηκε από αξιωματούχους, από ειδικούς σε θέματα ασφαλείας και από πειρατές του Ίντερνετ που καθοδηγούνταν από την κινεζική κυβέρνηση", αναφέρει η εφημερίδα.
Στο Ιράν. Στην ιστοσελίδα της η Guardian αναφέρει ότι ο βασιλιάς Αμπντάλα της Σαουδικής Αραβίας κάλεσε τις ΗΠΑ να επιτεθούν στο Ιράν προκειμένου να τερματίσει το πυρηνικό του πρόγραμμα. Όσον αφορά το ιρανικό θέμα, τα έγγραφα δείχνουν ότι το Ισραήλ ώθησε αποφασιστικά τις ΗΠΑ εναντίον του Ιράν, τονίζοντας ότι η αμερικανική στρατηγική υπέρ των διαπραγματεύσεων με την Τεχεράνη "δεν θα λειτουργήσει", σύμφωνα με έγγραφο που αναρτήθηκε στην ιστοσελίδα της Le Monde.
Αμερικανικό τηλεγράφημα αναφέρει μια συζήτηση την 1η Δεκεμβρίου του 2009 μεταξύ του Αμος Γκιλάντ, του διευθυντή πολιτικο-στρατιωτικών υποθέσεων στο ισραηλινό υπουργείο Άμυνας και της Ελεν Τάουσερ, της υφυπουργού Εξωτερικών των ΗΠΑ.
Η διπλωματία του προέδρου Ομπάμα, "η στρατηγική δέσμευση με το Ιράν" "είναι μια καλή ιδέα αλλά σαφές ότι δεν θα λειτουργήσει" δηλώνει ο Γκιλάντ στη συνομιλία αυτή.
Αποκάλυψη για το "Μακεδονικό"!!!
16 Σεπτεμβρίου 2009, 20 μέρες πριν τις εκλογές της 4ης Οκτωβρίου 2009.
Ο Βοηθός ΥΠΕΞ Philip Gordon συναντάται στο Παρίσι με "policy makers" μεταξύ αυτών και ο Jean-David Levitt , αντιπρόσωπος του (...φίλου του Καραμανλή) Σαρκοζί.
Ο Levvit λέει τι πρέπει να γίνει για να λυθεί το πρόβλημα της ονομασίας των Σκοπίων.
Δείτε το απόρρητο έγγραφο, χωρίς κανένα σχόλιο από το taxalia.
Αγγλικά ξέρετε. Δείτε το (υπενθυμίζουμε ότι ο Leviit είναι έμπιστος του Σαρκοζί κι ο Σαρκοζί, φίλος του Καραμανλή, κι ότι είμαστε ένα μήνα περίπου πριν τις εκλογές του 2009):
Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 07:34
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SUBJECT: A/S GORDON'S MEETINGS WITH POLICY-MAKERS IN PARIS:
A TOUR D'HORIZON OF EUROPE AND AFGHANISTAN
Classified By: Ambassador Charles Rivkin, for reasons 1.4(b) and (d).
Summary
Senior officials from both countries examine current international challenges, agreeing that Afghanistan is a major priority, fretting about Russian actions in Georgia, and agreeing to disagree about Turkey's EU membership bid. But on Iran, there is a full meeting of minds, with the French saying Tehran's response to Barack Obama's offer to talk is a farce. Key passage highlighted in yellow.
Read related article 1. (S) Summary. During Assistant Secretary Gordon's visit to Paris on September 11, he met with a number of French policy-makers including: Elysee Diplomatic Advisors Jean-David Levitte, Damien Loras, and Francois Richier, Assistant Secretary equivalent for Continental Europe Roland Galharague, and Acting Director of MFA Strategic Affairs bureau Jean-Hugues Simon-Michel. Discussions focused on Russia, upcoming developments in the Balkans (Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia and Kosovo), elections in Germany and Afghanistan, Turkey's EU Accession, NATO Enlargement and Strategic Concept, and Georgia and Ukraine. End Summary.
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AFGHANISTAN: A MAJOR PRIORITY
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2. (C) Jean-David Levitte noted that while public opinion in France is opposed to the war in Afghanistan, the situation here is much calmer than in the UK, Germany, or Italy. Angela Merkel's domestic political situation after the incident in Kunduz was particularly fragile, so that was part of the rationale behind the recent German-French-UK letter to UN SYG Ban Ki Moon to propose an international conference on Afghanistan by the end of the year. Levitte said that the goal of the conference would be to accelerate and improve the training of Afghan troops and police and to strengthen Afghan state institutions, which will help reinforce the importance of the international effort to skeptical publics. They are now waiting for Ban Ki Moon's response. Levitte emphasized that France remains "totally engaged" in Afghanistan with no limits or caveats on its troops. This autumn, France will complete a transfer of troops from Kabul to Kapisa and Surobi provinces (a presence that will be reinforced on the ground as France reassigns some sailors to other regional activities and replaces them with ground troops). A/S Gordon assured Levitte that the U.S. would soon be able to share the elements of the McChrystal military review with Allies. Levitte responded by praising General McChrystal and saying that French forces have an excellent dialogue with him on the ground. He added that Germany and the UK are determined to stay in Afghanistan as needed, but we may need to convince the Netherlands to remain, and that President Sarkozy had recently reinforced this message in a meeting with Dutch PM Balkenende.
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BOSNIA: FRENCH URGE TRANFER TO EU AUTHORITY
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3. (C) Levitte noted that of the five major conditions required to transfer authority in Bosnia from the UN High Representative to an EU High Representative, four have been fulfilled, and only the question of division of state property remains. This final condition should not alone "block all progress," especially as the current UN team in Bosnia is no longer effective. France wants to see the transfer of authority to a new EU team in November, as the rapprochement to Europe is an effective "carrot" to encourage the Bosniaks to continue progress in necessary reforms. A/S Gordon agreed that the current system is not working well, but noted that the international community will lose credibility if we move forward before all the necessary pre-conditions have been fulfilled. He added that the U.S. agrees that some form of carrot is necessary to urge Bosnian compliance. Levitte noted that they still have two months to urge Bosnian progress before a final decision is made. In a separate meeting, Assistant Secretary equivalent for Continental Europe Roland Galharague said that "transition is the number one objective," suggested the division of state property will take much time to resolve, and urged the U.S. to support early transfer of authority that would open the door to Bosnian aspirations for greater integration into EU institutions. He noted that the growing perception of divisions between the US and Bosniaks on one side who favored retaining the UN role and the EU and Serbs on the other created unhelpful opportunities for manipulation. A/S Gordon said this perception was inaccurate, but noted the U.S. is sensitive to the political need for Bosniak leaders to sell this decision to their publics. The USG needs to see a clear path ahead for transition in order to support it.
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KOSOVO AND SERBIA
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4. (C) Levitte noted that the EULEX mission is having diplomatic problems with the Kosovar government and public
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after signing two technical protocols with Serbia. They are hoping to ensure continued calm as Kosovo heads into municipal elections. A/S Gordon stated that the Kosovars will have to accept the protocols but that it should be clearly explained that these are technical agreements that have no impact on Kosovo's independent status. Levitte also criticized Serbian FM Jeremic, saying that he is doing nothing to encourage Serb return or participation in Kosovo's government. Levitte noted that Jeremic "makes big promises" every time he comes to France, but doesn't follow through. Levitte no longer meets with him and does not consider him to be the "modern face of Belgrade" that he purports to be.
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MACEDONIA AND CROATIA
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5. (C) Levitte expressed optimism that a new Greek government would be "more solid" and allow greater flexibility for progress in the Greek-Macedonian name dispute. A/S Gordon agreed that either a more solid Conservative government or a Socialist government would be a stronger, more flexible partner in the negotiations. He expressed hope that if the international community could convince Macedonia to abandon the idea of a referendum and get Greece to abandon the necessity of changing passports, then progress could be made.
On Croatia, Levitte observed that the border issue with Slovenia is making progress. He hoped that the upcoming September elections in Germany would also allow the new German government to be more open to EU enlargement to include the Balkan countries. Paris wants the door to enlargement to remain open, even if the accession process takes time.
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CONCERNS ABOUT TURKEY
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6. (C) Levitte informed A/S Gordon that there had been no change in the French position advocating a "privileged partnership" between the European Union and Turkey, in lieu of EU membership. However, he emphasized that France was not preventing accession negotiations from progressing on all the EU chapters that do not pre-suppose membership. There remain plenty of chapters of the acquis to open, so if progress is not being made, the fault lies with Turkish intransigence on Cyprus. Unfortunately, Ankara is not completing the required necessary reforms and progress has stalled. Levitte anticipated a negative report this fall on Turkey's failure to fulfill the Ankara Protocol. A/S Gordon said that Turkey was caught in a vicious cycle and it is not completing necessary reforms because the Turks do not believe that their EU candidacy will be allowed to progress, and at the same time, their negotiations are not progressing because they aren't completing the required reforms. He noted that in the latest German Marshall Fund polls in Turkey, fewer that 30% of the Turkish public believes they will succeed in getting EU membership.
7. (C) Levitte agreed, but noted that Paris hopes that it will be the Turks themselves who realize that their role is best played as a bridge between the two worlds of Europe and Asia, rather than anchored in Europe itself. He stated that Turkey is in a difficult position as it wants to enter the EU but has refused to accept one of the other EU member states. Levitte predicted that a worse case scenario would be if Turkey finally manages to complete the acquis and end negotiations and a public referendum is held in France which is finally opposed to their membership. Despite all of these problems, Levitte claimed that President Sarkozy is a friend of Turkey and has visited the country at least 10 times in his life.
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RUSSIA AND GEORGIA
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8. (C) A/S Gordon described the challenges and frustrations of the U.S.- Russia relationship, which is based on finding areas where we can work together on our common interest. He noted progress at the July summit meeting on such issues as START talks and transfer of lethal material through Russia to Afghanistan. Galharague described Russia as a state with the trappings of democracy but without any mechanisms for the public to influence government decision-making. "The root of the problem is the regime," he said. Presidential advisor Loras added Russian leaders lacked sufficient, long-range vision for their country and instead, focused on a six-month time horizon and their business interests. Galharague
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described the French strategy as finding a balance between treating Russia as if it is too important or treating it like an enemy. The French observed that some in Russia have concluded their interests are served by keeping the west "tied down in an Afghanistan quagmire" and by sustaining the status quo in Iran. He elaborated that a solution that thwarts Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions and restores Iran as a normal member of the international community could undermine Russian regional and energy interests. Loras noted of late the Russians have been unhelpful on Iran. Moreover, they appear to have concluded they can pocket a projected U.S. decision to scale back or abandon the Bush administration's Missile Defense initiative without paying any cost.
9. (C) Looking ahead on the energy front, Loras predicted that substantial Russian under-investment in energy extraction infrastructure was such that Russia would not be able to meet European demand in four or five years. He observed this created an opportunity for Russia to have even more leverage over a Europe that has not prepared to diversify its energy supplies. In response to a question on Russia's decision to suspend negotiations on World Trade Organization membership in favor of a customs union with Kazakhstan and Belarus, A/S Gordon replied the U.S. would continue a policy review on Missile Defense to take the right decision based on the merits. On Russian actions regarding the WTO, he said that Moscow's decision was likely supported by Russians whose interests were not advanced by opening markets. Galharague observed that failure to advance WTO membership for Russia had negative implications for EU-Russian trade relations as progress in this EU effort pre-supposed progress on Russian accession to the WTO. Loras reported the coming year will involve substantial Franco-Russian interactions. This engagement would include a visit by French Prime Minister Fillon to Russia in September, a visit to France by Putin in November, a state visit to France by Medvedev in March, and a Sarkozy visit to Russia in 2010 on the margins of the St. Petersburg forum. These visits would occur under the auspices of reciprocal "Year of France" events in Russia and "Year of Russia" events in France.
10. (C) Levitte and A/S Gordon discussed the "dangerous" precedent of ships being intercepted in Georgian waters. Sarkozy Advisor Damien Loras noted that President Saakashvili has a French advisor who has informed Paris that Georgian ships have orders to respond if fired upon. This can escalate and the French message has been to emphasize that Georgia must not respond to provocation, as that would only play into Russia's hands. Levitte stressed the importance of maintaining the Geneva process, while noting that it may take a generation before the Russian public will be able to accept their loss of influence, from Poland and the Baltics to Ukraine and Georgia. Unfortunately, the Russian tendency is to view "good neighbors" as totally submissive subordinates. On the other hand, Paris is closely watching Medvedev, who is more frequently taking public stances in opposition to Putin. Medvedev is more open to the occidental powers and more open to modernization and rule of law issues that Russia must face. A/S Gordon observed that President Obama had spent a good deal of time with Medvedev on his trip to Russia, and had specifically targeted Russian youth in his public outreach event. In his meeting with Galharague and others, A/S Gordon noted that the U.S. pursues a policy to support Georgia in the face of Russian pressure without encouraging President Saakashvili to act in ways that are unhelpful.
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IRAN: NEXT STEPS
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11. (S/NF) Levitte noted that the Iranian response to the overture of President Obama and the West was "a farce," although Russia had received it as a real initiative. The current Iranian regime is effectively a fascist state and the time has come to decide on next steps. Levitte stated that this is why Paris is advocating a meeting of the EU3 PLUS 3 on the margins of the Pittsburgh G20 meeting. The French hope to approve a two-paragraph statement laying out next steps on negotiations or sanctions. He noted that German Chancellor Angela Merkel shares the view of the French President and is willing to be firm on sanctions, but that FM Steinmeier was more cautious. The Iranian regime must understand that it will be more threatened by economic harm and the attendant social unrest than it would be by negotiating with the West. Unfortunately, the P-3 cannot remain passive until Russia and China finally lose patience;
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this is why a high-level political meeting is important to advance this discussion (and Levitte cited President Sarkozy's frank and direct style, saying that he would pinpoint Medvedev to explain his position). Levitte said that he informed the Chinese FM that if they delay until a possible Israeli raid, then the world will have to deal with a catastrophic energy crisis as well. At the same time, the debate over stopping the flow of gasoline into Iran will be very sensitive and would have to take into account which countries would be only too willing to step in and replace European companies. Levitte informed us that they would like President Sarkozy to talk to President Obama by telephone in the coming days to discuss the G20 and Iran. The French are proposing two possible windows to schedule the call.
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NATO'S ENLARGEMENT AND STRATEGIC CONCEPT
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12. (C) Levitte said that France was very pleased with the selection of Madeleine Albright to chair the "Group of 12," which will launch the process of reviewing NATO's Strategic Concept. Bruno Racine will be the French participant on the panel, and Levitte stressed that there is already strong agreement between France and the United States on the basis of exchanges that he has had with NSA General Jim Jones. Levitte noted that Paris agreed with Jones on suppressing the Membership Action Plan (MAP), which had become an obstacle rather than an incentive. A/S Gordon responded that we must not change the process in a way that would be interpreted as suggesting an end to NATO enlargement and eliminating MAP might do that. Levitte agreed and added that French President Sarkozy was "convinced" that Ukraine would one day be a member of NATO, but that there was no point in rushing the process and antagonizing Russia, particularly if the Ukrainian public was largely against membership. The Bucharest summit declaration was very clear that NATO has an open door and Ukraine and Georgia have a vocation in NATO (even if Georgia remains very unstable at the moment). Levitte added that Paris was very pleased with the ceremony on September 9 transferring the Allied Command Transformation (ACT) to French General Stephane Abrial.
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VENEZUELA
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13. (C) Levitte observed that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is "crazy" and said that even Brazil wasn't able to support him anymore. Unfortunately, Chavez is taking one of the richest countries in Latin America and turning it into another Zimbabwe.
14. (U) Assistant Secretary Gordon has cleared this message. RIVKIN
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Ανανέωση - 02:32 πμ
Τι λέει το απόρρητο έγραφο για τη "Μακεδονία"; Μια πρώτη εκτίμηση
Το έγγραφο συντάχθηκε στις 16-9-2010. Ειναι αναφορά για τα πεπραγμένα μιας συνάντησης που έγινε στο Παρίσι, μεταξύ του Υφ.υπ.Εξ. των ΗΠΑ, βοηθού της Χιλαρι Κλίντον, Philip Gordon και διάφορων police-makers (ανθρώπων που "διαμορφώνουν" πολιτική). Μεταξύ των συνομιλητών του Αμερικανού Υφυπουργού ήταν ο Jean-David Levitte, στενός συνεργάτης του Σαρκοζί.
Το πιό σημαντικό εδάφιο λέει:
Levitte (ο σύμβουλος του Σαρκοζί) expressed optimism (εξέφρασε την αισιοδοξία) that a new Greek government (ότι μια νέα ελληνική κυβέρνηση -τότε κυβερνούσε ο Καραμανλής) would be "more solid" (θα ήταν πιό "σταθερή" ) and allow greater flexibility (και θα επέτρεπε περισσότερη ευελιξία - η τότε κυβέρνηση δηλαδή δεν ήταν "ευέλικτη") for progress in the Greek-Macedonian name dispute (για πρόοδο στην ελληνοσκοπιανή διαμάχη). A/S Gordon agreed (συμφώνησε ο Αμερικανός με τον Γάλλο σύμβουλο) that either a more solid Conservative government (ότι είτε μια πιό σταθερή συντηρητική κυβέρνηση -όχι αυτή της ΝΔ που δεν ήταν σταθερή λόγω των 151 βουλευτών, αλλά άλλη συντηρητική, πιθανώς ..συμμαχία;) or a Socialist government (ή μια σοσιαλιστική κυβέρνηση) would be a stronge , more flexible partner in the negotiations (θα ήταν δυνατότερος και πιό ευέλικτος εταίρος στις διαπραγματεύσεις). He expressed hope that if the international community could convince Macedonia to abandon the idea of a referendum (ο Αμερικανόςυφυπουργός εξέφρασε την ελπίδα ότι αν η διεθνής κινότητα μπορούσε να πείσει τα Σκόπια να απορρίψουν την ιδέα του δημοψηφίσματος) and get Greece to abandon the necessity of changing passports (και να κάνουν την Ελλάδα να απορρίψει την αναγκαιότητα να αλλάξουν τα διαβατήρια των Σκοπιανών), then progress could be made (τότε θα μπορούσε να υπάρξει πρόοδος).
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Επιδίωκαν μια πιό ευέλικτη κυβέρνηση από αυτή του Καραμανλή, που δεν θα έβαζε βέτο στο να αλλάξουν τα διαβατήρια των Σκοπιανών. Προφανώς οι Σκοπιανοί, συμφωνούσαν να ονομαστούν Βόρεια Μακεδονία π.χ., αλλά το όνομα της χώρας και η εθνικότητα στα διαβατήρια να μην αλλάξουν και να λένε Macedonia και Macedonian. Ο Καραμανλής "κλωτσούσε" σε αυτό και οι Αμερικανοί, τον ...κλώτσησαν.
Ή μάλλον, ο Ελληνικός λαός, που κάνει πάντα ό,τι του υπαγορεύουν οι Αμερικανοί.
Έγγραφα για την Αλβανία
Ο ρόλος της Ελλάδας στο Βορειοηπειρωτικό ζήτημα
Στα έγγραφα της Wikileaks αποκαλύπτονται συγκλονιστικά στοιχεία σχετικά με τις σχέσεις μεταξύ Τιράνων και Αθήνας και το ρόλο της Ελλάδας στο νότιο τμήμα της Αλβανίας και το Βορειοηπειρωτικό ζήτημα.
Στα έγγραφα της Wikileaks η οποία αναμένεται να δημοσιευθούν σύντομα συμπεριλαμβάνεται και η Αλβανία με θέμα το παρασκήνιο των διπλωματικών σχέσεων μεταξύ της Αλβανίας και της Ελλάδας. Η είδηση αναφέρεται από πηγές του Ελληνικού Υπουργείου Εξωτερικών. Ο Ελληνας πρέσβης στην Ουάσιγκτον έχει προειδοποιήσει τον Έλληνα Υπουργό Εξωτερικών κ.Δρούτσα για τη διαρροή των εγγράφων που αναφέρονται ως διαβαθμισμένεα έγγραφα. Στα έγγραφα της Wikileaks αποκαλύπτονται συγκλονιστικά στοιχεία σχετικά με τις σχέσεις μεταξύ Τιράνων και Αθήνας και το ρόλο της Ελλάδας στο νότιο τμήμα της Αλβανίας, για το Βορειοηπειρωτικό και για το συμφωνητικό υδάτων μεταξύ των δύο χωρών που ακυρώθηκε πριν από λίγους μήνες από το Συνταγματικό Δικαστήριο στα Τίρανα.
Wikileaks: CIA Χάκερς προσπαθούν να ρίξουν τον server
WikiLeaks says it is under cyber attack.
Επίθεση στους servers του Wikileaks (http://www.wikileaks.org/ ), που αναμένεται να βγάλει στη δημοσιότητα απόρρητα και εμπιστευτικά έγγραφα, που εκθέτουν τις ΗΠΑ, και δημιουργούν μπελάδες σε συμμάχους τους, ανακοίνωσε ο δημοφιλής ιστότοπος.
"We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack," ,
αναφέρουν οι συνεργάτες του...
Julian Assange , αλλά δεν το βάζουν κάτω και υπόσχονται ότι η δημοσιοποίηση τελικά θα πραγματοποιηθεί, από αλλού!
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